They can’t rescind their original letter so they are stuck with that specific one, but for others trying to push the envelope, they will probably find a less than receptive tech branch at the ATF. FREE Shipping. There is a letter for both Blades linked in the product description for each product on our site. It’s just that until they do, how do you EXPECT them to rule? More proof that most firearms laws are pure f#@%tardery. Made from high-strength glass-reinforced polymer, the Blade is manufactured to exacting tolerances and fits all pistols equipped with a standard AR-15 pistol buffer tube (up to 1.25" in diameter). Hell, I shouldn’t even be posting this, but I am just too excited about it. Required fields are marked *. ), “Length of pull”—for lack of a better word regarding pistol braces—begins to enter a “gray area” above 13.5″. There is a generic letter you can find online. That said, the gay blade is crap compared to the Sig Brace, and you can keep it. The strap detail is if a brace was designed and made with a strap – you cannot remove it. Just slip it on and tighten the large set screw for a rock-solid installation. Thx you for keeping us in the loop, waiting patiently for letter. Its turned into a place where management does whatever a corrupt or stoopid AG says, ever since WACO, it looks like, jusg reading the news and what has been released, on various scandals. A newer design is the “Shockwave Blade,” which is basically a single vertical rubber fin that hangs from the buffer tube of your AR pistol and claims to improve stability by limiting side-to-side motion while firing. Pretty tasteless to come on this site and plug your own product in the comments section! Matters not if you have a compatible firearm or another firearm period it is a silencer requiring paperwork and tax. Or how about you find those little plastic stocks that are fit to a Gock. Extend the lower, or even shoulder the lower, and I am a felon? Thanks dumbasses/trolls/cops on message boards always asking illegal stuff. Why does the government need to get involved? Stay below 13.5″ and according to ATF, it’s okay to shoulder a. it also states in line 4 that removing the strap makes if void as a brace. They can do anything they want, Congress has given them Carte Blanc on this and this is quite obvious/. Win the internet today. Velcro! Then all these people with so called “pistols” are going to have to pay the tax anyway or lose the SBR’s. Let them keep it up, they are adding ammunition (pun intended) to the case of repealing the NFA. The sig brace will be good until some medicated psycho kid shoots up his school. So he or we should NEVER say they can’t resend a letter or decision. Save 25% MSRP: $ 40.00 $ 29.95. No half-hour installation process. ... [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Shockwave blade pistol stabilizer. And those 9 wise overlords in black cloaks confirmed that buying a gun for someone, regardless that they can legally own it, is a crime that is punishable by up to TEN YEARS IN PRISON. Am I missing something? My question was directed more at the issue of constructive posession. If they said “turn ’em all in RIGHT NOW” you would actually comply? I can agree with you over what the current case law is without agreeing to the premise that law supports. I like the feeling of packing a loaded AR under the seat in case the SHTF. Seriously: whatever firearm this thing is attached to is A-OK if fired as a pistol, but as soon as it’s raised to the shoulder, it’s a threat to the public? This is so unenforceable its not funny. SB Tactical filed a lawsuit against Shockwave Technologies. Reading that clause in such a permissive way seems to conflict with both the drafters’ intent and the prevailing fear of federal over-reach at the time. Just wondering if the ATF has once again changed it’s definition of “brace.” I own a blade stabilizer I have attached to a Ruger Charger with the copper custom adapter. Where was the damage? Stay on the offensive. Can people please for the love of God stop contacting the ATF to make really really sure they said something? We do not recommend changing the blade or adding any straps. But there’s always room for a bit of improvement, wouldn’t you say? Does anyone in the ATF maybe own some Sig stock? ATF Reportedly Approves Shouldering the Shockwave Pistol Brace. ATF Agent: We need to take you in for using an unregistered SBR. Why would anyone ever need protection from anything if the ATF has approved it? (Sig specifically said they would defend the brace in Court.) provided the Blade AR Pistol Stabilizer is used as originally designed and NOT used as a shoulder stock. Fits standard Buffer Tube KAK Shockwave Blade 1.0 Buffer Tube Stabilizer Only Matches MR2QUIK's Hex-Cut Shockwave Blade 1.0 (( EndCap Adapter Protector ONLY)) Custom Applications and Colors are excepted All NFA rules apply. Nick, you’ll note that Alex Bosco received his Tech Branch “approval” letter for a soft foam “buffer tube forearm brace.” You’ll also note that SIG has NEVER received any Tech Branch letters for either their hard rubber SB-15 or their hard rubber SBX. The ATF included, so they go through the motions of bureaucracy till such time as the 2nd amendment gets repealed and guns are banned altogether or the 1934 GCA gets repealed or amended to stop the insanity. FREE SHIPPING on Over 250,000 Products. Mines sighted at 100 and does very well. He was free to use the device however he wanted. We have a small number of Blades and Grips that just “didn’t make the cut” with the QC department. It sounded like the number of phone calls they received today was ridiculous. As we reported earlier in the week the ATF issued a new opinion letter to SB Tactical proclaiming that it is once more legal to shoulder and fire the company’s pistol arm brace. Therefore it makes perfect sense to provide Alex’s letter with every brace. The Shockwave Technologies Blade Pistol Stabilizer is a lightweight, ergonomic, and ATF approved solution to enhancing your AR pistol. I didn’t talk down SIG’s product. All this SBR, AR pistol, Is krapp OK so I have an AR PISTOL, if I Put the buffer tube up to my shoulder and fire it, what is it? The Shockwave Blade is available on its own, or as a full package that provides the tools to modify weapons that aren’t already made with a brace in mind. Thank you sincerely, Chris.M. oh no now you have a short barreled rifle. Oh yes, limiting government, not citizens. In addition, the SB Tactical Mossberg 590 Shockwave Brace kit is a great choice for those looking for a pistol that meets rigorous standards. Is this only valid for the 2.0 version and not the prior models? If they could handle the paper work it would be one thing but this it TOTALLY ridiculous. This is a bit surprising to me that Wilson or this SB company would sell a product that most people will realize will be shouldered vs used “as designed”. I didn’t realize that Alex Bosco was the manufacturer. Thank you for being patient and answering all these questions for us. Are those controlled? I simply wanted to clarify that SIG doesn’t have a letter. Add to Wishlist + Presma AR Pistol Stabilizing Fin – Black. Best of luck to the AR “pistol” owners….as I don’t see a positive outcome over this issue. With respect, I believe what we have here is a failure to communicate. It would be nice to keep a copy in my case on the off chance I run into a LEO who is unaware of the ATF’s clarification. Thanks. Many of the Supreme Court’s rulings have come down to 5/4 votes. The GG&G Mossberg Shockwave Brace Kit only adds an additional 4.25 inches to the length of the Shockwave Shotgun when collapsed. Not only how do they enforce it, how do they maintain any consistency? Intent = Thought Police and Pre Crime This is pretty much a stock, and they tried to find a way to market it as something else. Copyright 2011-2021 Shockwave Technologies. You already have that in a bare damper tube. Sadly, you are most likely right. KAK Shockwave Blade Black Pistol Stabilizer The patent-pending Blade pistol stabilizer from KAK Shockwave is made from glass-reinforced polymer and built to exact tolerances. Gun Control Cultists Call for Children to Steal Parents’ Firearms, Bring Them to Schools, http://thetruthaboutguns.com/author/foghorn/. Most people don’t know that the BATF now has people assigned to look through YouTube Videos for use of improperly modified or illegal firearms. That is what they are there for Thanks, Team Shockwave. Thank you again to all the faithful who continue to believe in our small business, That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. A newer design is the “Shockwave Blade,” which is basically a single vertical rubber fin that hangs from the buffer tube of your AR pistol and claims to improve stability by limiting side-to-side motion while firing. to keep and show law enforcement just in case>? Seems to me the states can monitor FFLs like they do in other small businesses, too. The KAK Shockwave features the patent-pending blade pistol stabilizer. If they were to extrapolate this ‘how you hold it’ logic could anybody who holds his pistol sideways – ‘gangsta style’ – be found in violation of the NFA? Made from high-strength glass-reinforced polymer, the Shockwave Blade pistol stabilizer is manufactured to exacting tolerances and fits all pistols equipped with a standard AR-15 pistol buffer tube (up to 1.25″ in diameter). But that is difficult and dangerous, and what makes you think that criminals already breaking the law would pay taxes to keep the agency lucrative? Do they have flash cards or crib notes so they can keep up? Don’t ruin it again like last time. Your product is made of plastic according to the ATF…whats the difference between your product and any other stock on the market…and as the owner of Shockwave it’s not very professional to be talking down another product. You have to shut up a little about what you get because if you brag it gets back to the gun grabbers. Intent matters, the ATF has said this. It is made out of the exact same material that every other brace has been made with since. So, just to be clear, the longest dimple setting in the buffer tube for the Blade is less than 13.5″? I could see the charges being added later for a criminal busted shouldering one during a crime but not otherwise. Why can’t we just get the stupid sbr restriction removed? Uh huh. Boy, that makes a bunch of sense. $200 was two months gross wages for the average american back then, now people will drop $200 on a pair of sneakers). Same with suppressors. Remember that M-1 carbine plus shoelaces = constructive intent to ATF. I travel across state lines and a pistol is legal and easily transported through the states I need. That would at least be a clear policy versus seemingly arbitrary case-by-case decisions that may/may not revise the previous. KAK Shockwave 2.0-M Adjustable Pistol Stabilizer Fits Mil-spec Buffer Tube. KAK Industries announced they will be the exclusive distributor for the Shockwave Technologies Blade AR pistol stabilizer. Ours are not made with a strap so that part is not relevant. The Shockwave Blade only weighs 5 ounces, meaning that for all the benefits it provides it barely adds any weight to your build. If anyone has some engineering experience, or even just a technically apt individual that knows the AKM platform inside and out and wants to partner up and put out a product, reply to this comment and we will get in contact. And just on those merits alone, the Shockwave Blade Pistol Stabilizer knocks the brace concept out of the park. Product: https://shockwavetechnologies.com/sitelatest/product/black-shockwave-blade-pistol-stabilizer/, Direct link to letter: http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/ATF-approval-letter-31OCT17.pdf. legally that is. Shorter ATF: the law we’re enforcing is stupid, and cannot possibly be construed to provide any public good. Please correct me if I’m wrong. It’s like watching that chicken at the fair that plays tic-tac-toe for quarters. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a sbr. Screw SB Tactical. Larry, here is a reason for a brace vs. an SBR that you may not have thought of. Like a large cane cap. It can be concealed. Not only do I blame the ATF, but I actively support eliminating the entire organization. As long as you don’t red Loctite the set screw in place, ATF considers it to be “temporarily placed” and “perfectly okay to shoulder.” (He didn’t beat around the bush on this topic. If the wrong cop sees you shouldering this, you are in a world of hurt. This may flip the market upside down, considering how cheap it can be manufactured, how sturdy it is, and how absolutely badass it looks. Don’t see any licensing requirements in the 2A…, “I should be allowed, with proper license, to conceal carry a Glock 18, shoulder stock or not.”. Sounds like they’re backtracking on the shouldering, probably from all of the “I can get an SBR without having to pay a tax!” fuss over the last couple years. Not legal for use on pistols. Once installed this unit locks down securely for a great fit. Since modifying a blade renders it illegal would Shockwave ever consider a new model with a molded in bumper cap? They are ubiquitous, affordable, reliable, and accurate. I have the dimpled tube and a LAW tactical adapter. You won’t, of course, because you can’t. And I don’t see people being arrested and convicted of stray purchasing for someone who can legally own a gun. Got one of the new SIG MPX pistols? Improve its usability—and make it even more badass—with the Shockwave Blade pistol stabilizer kit. These guys have dealt with the ATF before and without problems, I think I remember their birdshead grip and the Moss 500 combo being under length a bit but they had their crap together. ATF Agent: And we need to “test” every single other gun in your collection to make sure they all only fire one round with every trigger pull. If you overlook crazy eyes you get what you deserve in my opinion. Improve its usability—and make it truly badass—with the Shockwave Blade pistol stabilizer kit. Judges are appointed by politicians who hope they will skew the law toward their political beliefs. Can’t really say I blame them, this one is pretty damn obvious. The BATF does NOT mess around. Made from high-strength glass-reinforced polymer, the Blade is manufactured to exacting tolerances and fits the KAK shockwave tube. Thank you for the response. How can you misconstrue anything .gov says as anything other than, do what we say or you’re dead? looking forward to that printable letter from BATFE. Uh… why would there be a deal? For what reason, I do not know. Save 10% MSRP: $ 39.95 $ 35.95. He said: “The letter covers all pistol stabilizing braces, including the Shockwave Blade.” So that settles that. We have a lot of LEOs that don’t even know or understand constitutional rights let alone enforcing “laws” that change every time some moron decides to write multiple decisions on each item. I am going to steal this as a discussion point. Next we’ll be warned against holding a pistol with two hands as it is “intended to fired with one hand.”. Above 13.5″ begins “to enter shoulder stock area.” (His words. Don’t forget, if you want to raise it up to your shoulder then $200 and some paperwork make it all better. It accommodates buffer tubes up to 1.25” in diameter and is designed to help increase aim and support when firing your AR-15 pistol. Although there’s more substance to the stock than the Shockwave Blade, that is the real competition here. The photo, courtesy of KAK … So leave the straps on, and when changing, replace individually. I was hoping for more companies to make alternatives to the Sig Brace. The real appeal, as I see it, is it does everything the other braces do, but has none of the bulk and more length of pull. KAK Shockwave Blade Pistol Stabilizer – Black. Well that was a pretty effective comeback. But please don’t use them against your shoulder. I understand were they’re coming from but it’d be nice if they made a stabilized “stump” at the end of an AR pistol instead which will keep it from being classified as an AR stock and will keep it from being a n SBR. And this is part of the reason why I want to abolish the tax stamp and similar ATF rules contained in the NFA and elsewhere. Velcro is the key. Shortly there after after it could look like Waco or Ruby Ridge at your home. If he does’t think they can change their minds and make this illegal, he does’t follow the BATF. Can utilize any or all three of these slots and attach straps to stabilize the brace on my forearm? We do not recommend making any changes to the Blade. Let’s be clear, judges are far from infallible. My mistake. Rule by fiat, Mao was right about political power. We’re moving forward with production, as we have a significant backorder to fill already. They should’ve told the ATF it was a tail fin. Ad hominem is fun. Made from high-strength glass-reinforced polymer, the Blade is manufactured to exacting tolerances and fits all pistols equipped with a standard AR-15 pistol buffer tube (up to 1. The Blade incorporates a flexible stabilizing fin which rests against the forearm while in the firing position. You have entered an incorrect email address! They have a long and rich tradition of taking things that were legal one day and making them a FELONY to use or even own the next.
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